Duelling Dichotomy

Great show between two arch rivals. I enjoy Jeff C.  more after listening to this (I have a soft spot for any of the very few Canadians speaking up), and of course I am big fan of the eloquent John Lebon.

I almost want to suggest a weekly show between these two; a truther Siskel and Ebert.

Watch “‘Great, Late, Old Mate Debate’ | Jeffrey vs JLB (22-Jan-2016)” on YouTube

Aftershow with a cursing JLB

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khammad
khammad
6 years ago

What happened to the general consensus around here that Jeff C is an unstable-on-purpose person?

And why did we think this in the first place? Because of the words coming out of his mouth, “Real people died in that plane crash”. Remember? Then he went away for a while because he was totally called out.

Then Jeff C came back and after a couple of months we accept him as legitimate? Is there a collective amnesia going on here?

As there is no new information to suggest Jeff C as legitimate, why should we change our mind from before? Am I missing something?

I believe the exchange between Jeff C and JLB is scripted and meant to be propoganda because the words they are saying supports the mainstream alternative news, not independent news.

Tal Shiar
Tal Shiar
6 years ago
Reply to  ab

Here is the actual interview:

I can’t believe I agree with JLB, but I guess it was bound to happen. He is correct, IMHO, when he states that people need to investigate these subjects. I also agree that people need to actually research and understand the history behind some of these media stories. That’s about all I agree with. The rest of the show seemed scripted to me, but who knows? Also, Shills most likely exist. Its logical! A great offensive is a team with a great defense. WHY CAN’T PEOPLE SEE THE PSYCHOLOGY OF THESE VIDEO’S! Can you not see it AB?

In my opinion, KHAM and TOM are onto something. JLB and Jeff’s show seems scripted to me as well. There is a huge psychology event going on here. Please wake up! Seriously, look at these videos’ from those of us who question JLB and Jeff. Please step back and take a look.

RESEARCHERS SHOULD BE QUESTIONING ALL SOURCES AND INFORMATION? Which means questioning these videos!

DIRECT MESSAGE TO AB:

I’m disappointed in your comment to Kham. From what I just read, I got the impression that you are attacking Kham for questioning JLB. Now keep in mind that JLB attacked Kham in his after-hour show that you posted on your site. Your response to Kham makes me think that you are bias towards both Kham and Tom. JLB went from scare-tactics of vaccines, attacking Videre, and then he never mentions it again. Then he creates this whole Flat Earth movement. He kept saying how much he supported the flat earth theory, then he switched sides. How does this now create issues among the community? Jesus AB!

I see nothing wrong with changing your opinions, but he had a strong side he was on in all of those subjects. Rallying his troops and then he drops it and changes sides. *shakes head*

SIDE NOTE: You stated that JLB is a better speaker than Jeff. HA HA HA HA . . I find myself reaching for my coffee when JLB talks.

Oh and what are your thoughts on Chemtrails?

Tal Shiar
Tal Shiar
6 years ago
Reply to  ab

I’m sorry if I am being hard on you AB! I have to remind myself, that its not easy to hold down this fort!

Tom Dalpra
Tom Dalpra
6 years ago
Reply to  khammad

Mmm, quirky stuff…

We have a three hour youtube audio where, among other things, John Le Bon tries to convince Jeff C, the apparently exposed agent of misdirection , that ”paid shills” don’t exist, at all… ‘on youtube’… or something.

Ab posts that he enjoys Jeff C. more ”after listening to this audio”. Mmm…yes Ab, maybe you hit the nail on the head ?

Was this one of the purposes of it? To make Jeff look good ? The ‘eloquent’ JLB is letting his ‘old mate’ Jeffrey right off the hook, isn’t he?
Far from calling-out Jeff as possibly a deliberate disinformationist, John actually goes for the theory that ”paid shills” don’t even exist. Ha!

This makes Jeff look good as he can talk the sense, that ‘shills do exist’ and in doing so appear less ”shilly’ himself, perhsaps? Hey, he’s the one calling them real.

John’s repeated term ‘paid shills’ is not one I would use ( why necessarily, the presumption of slave money payment? ), but as was discussed briefly last week on a JLB post, I think it’s naive to think that there are not agents of disinformation ‘on youtube’. It’s obvious that it’s part of the scenery in these areas of research and at risk of incurring a ‘speak for yourself’ penalty, I would think that most seasoned researchers here would agree with me.

Is John Le Bon being naive on this point or is he doing it on purpose?

khammad
khammad
6 years ago

Ab,

You are correct in that there have been many complaints about me, mostly from flat earth types. That is interesting in itself.

I shall refrain from challenging your belief system as I see it upsets you and this is your website. Apologies.

Carole Thomas
Carole Thomas
6 years ago

I think we’re all big boys and girls now and can make up our own minds who we want to play with on the schoolyard. I’m fed up with the shill-hunts – I much prefer to focus on the fakery and make up my own mind how to do my research and what or whom to believe. Still waiting for the big dino-exposé, JLB. It’ll be bags more fun than shill-exposing.

Tal Shiar
Tal Shiar
6 years ago
Reply to  ab

Hey Carole!Great to see you post! 🙂

Carole Thomas
Carole Thomas
6 years ago
Reply to  Tal Shiar

Hi Tal
Come join us on the forums. lots to discuss!

Carole Thomas
Carole Thomas
6 years ago
Reply to  ab

You’re right Ab. The source is important. It’s easy, however, to get paranoid and end up thinking everyone is a “shill” a ie liar. My policy is to listen to what interests me, trust my gut-feeling, do some fact-checking, mull things over, take the dog for a walk, sleep on it – and then integrate the new information wholly or partly or dismiss it, reserving the right to change my mind when and if I feel it to be necessary.